Mendele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 6.201
January 16, 1997

1) A mayse mit a mantl (Perl Teitelbaum)
2) A mayse mit a mantl (Iosif Vaisman)
3) A mayse mit a mantl (Evita Wiecki)
4) Yankev (Rick Turkel)
5) Yiddish language tapes (Iosif Vaisman)

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Date: 15 Jan 97 10:56:13 EST
From: 74031.775@compuserve.com
Subject: A mayse mit a mantl

In Vol 6.200  Khane-Faygl Turtletaub fregt vegn a lid fun a mantl. Men
ken es gefinen in Kadye Molodovskys lider zamlung Yidishe Kinder,
aroysgegebn fun tsentral-komitet fun di yidishe folks-shuln in di
fareynikte shtatn un kanade, nyu york 1945. Es heybt zikh on azoy:

Bay a shnayder in komore
ful mit kinder, keyn eyn hore,
kinder pitselekh, vi mon,
shteyt a vigl oybn-on.

Itster heybt zikh on di mayse,
nisht fun tsigelekh keyn vayse,
nor a mayse fun a mantl
fun a tunkeln gevantl.

Hot men oyfgeneyt a mantl
fun a tunkeln gevantl
farn eltstn bukher Shmul,
er zol kenen geyn in shul.

Geyt im Shmulik yorn dray,
iz der mantl shpogl nay.
Geyt im Shmilik nokh a yor,
iz der mantl shener gor.

Eynmol......

Es iz vert tsu gefinen dos lid un ibertsuleyenen bizn sof.  Ir vet zikher
hanoye hobn.

Perl Teitelbaum
Queens, NY

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:34:53 -0500 (EST)
From: iiv@mmlds1.pha.unc.edu
Subject: "A mayse mit a mantl"

Khane-Faygl Turtletaub hot gefregt vegn a lid vos heyst "a mayse mit a
mantl." It's probably Kadia Molodowsky's "A mayse mit a balye: A mantl
fun a tunklen gevantl" (Varshe: Yidisher shul organizatsye in Poyln,
1931). This book is reproduced in the YIVO children's literature
collection on microfiche (No. 639).

Iosif Vaisman

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:59:56 GMT+0100
From: evita.wiecki@stud.uni-bamberg.de
Subject: "a mantl" fun kadia molodovsky

Emetser (ikh hob di e-mail "farloyrn") hot gefregt vegn a lid, vos darf
zayn fun kadia molodovsky oder fun mangern un dertseyln epes vegn a
mantl. Oyb dos lid vos ir zukht heybt zikh on mit:

bay a shnayder in komore
ful mit kinder, keynakhore,
kinder pitselekh, vi mon,
shteyt a vigel oybn-on.

iz dos lid emes fun k. molodovsky, heyst poshet "a mantl" un men ken dos
gefinen lemoshl inem bikhl "yidishe kinder" fun k.m.

Ikh hob dem gantsn lid (vos iz zeyer lang) un az emetser darf hobn a
hilf, ken ikh im shikn.

Evita Wiecki

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:11:50 -0500
From: rturkel@cas.org
Subject: Yankev

Re: the ongoing discussions of Yankev and other Yiddish reflexes of the
Hebrew gutteral `ayin (most recently in mendele 6.200).

I remember reading something years ago (unfortunately I don't know
where, or even where to look for such information) regarding the
presence of a guttural in Proto-Indo-European, and the fact that its
modern reflex in most Indo-European languages is "n" or a nasalized
vowel.  Since the loss of this guttural was a very early sound change in
Indo-European, the languages surrounding Yiddish had no such sound
during the period of development of Yiddish.  I think it's fair to say
that the Hebrew `ayin likewise lost its guttural quality throughout
Ashkenaz pretty early on, and not recently.

It has been noted earlier in Mendele by me and others that, among many
Yiddish speakers, a Hebrew alef with a khataf-patakh also has a nasal
quality to it (e.g., "ka'a~sher")  This is doubtless due to the loss of
distinction between alef and `ayin among Ashkenazim.

Zayt gezunt un shtark.

Rick Turkel

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:56:03 -0500 (EST)
From: iiv@mmlds1.pha.unc.edu
Subject: Yiddish language tapes

Sheva Zucker prepared a comprehensive set of 8 tapes to accompany her
Yiddish textbook. Detailed information about the tapes is available from
Sheva's homepage (http://members.aol.com/~sczucker, link from Shtetl at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/yiddish/sheva.html). The tapes feature all the
dialogues, stories, and exercises from the textbook and some additional
materials.

Iosif Vaisman

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