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We've become very good friends. I go twice a year. He invites me to come and I go, and after the high holiday services he'll ask me to come over for dinner, and I go. I'm not crazy about it. I find those evenings rather boring. However, I go. So he had said to me on prior occasions -- he'd been very interested in my mayoralty race -- “You know, you really ought to get to see Archbishop Iakovos. He's a good man. He works with me.” And I'm sort of lazy in some regards, and I didn't do it. And then the Greek-Turkish crisis arose, and I happened to have a conversation with Arthur Schneier that day in New York. I was in my New York office, probably a Friday. And he said, “Have you spoken to Iakovos?” And I said, “Arthur, I haven't. I'm delinquent. I'll call him right now and I'll arrange to see him.” So I have my secretary call. I say, “Call up...” He's the archbishop of North and South America. He's the highest primate of the Greek Orthodox Church in the Western Hemisphere. I said, “Call up the archbishop's office and tell him I'd like at the archbishop's convenience to come up and meet the archbishop.” So she calls up, and a few minutes later she says, “The archbishop is on the phone; he wants to talk to you.” So I get on and I probably knew the salutation, which is “Your Eminence.” I said, “You Eminence, I'm really just calling to arrange to come up to see you at your convenience. Rabbi Schneier suggests that I do that, and I would like very much to