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Again about Rangel -- would you consider him an effective Congressman for his district?

He's lazy, and he's relatively effective. He could be much more effective, but he's lazy.

Is he bright?

Oh, he's bright. Yes, he's bright. And I like him. He's got a marvelous sense of humor, and he's not hung up with militancy in the sense that many of the others are. There's no question that he wants to do what's right for blacks and I don't think he's sufficiently sensitive to his Jewish consituency. I understand all that. I'm not asking him to feel the way I feel, because I don't feel the way he feels about blacks. But he has a political problem, which he doesn't seem to realize, because he happens to have a Jewish constituency that can get rid of him. Of course he doesn't count on that. These crazy Jews on the west side are radicals generally, and so in the past -- I think it's changing -- they love the guy who pisses on them. But that's another story.