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and I think Mrs. Dorothy Schiff and two or three other people. We weren't political leaders but just Democrats and citizens who were interested in the welfare of the state. Would we make a statement urging Robert Kennedy to run? I stayed up half the night waiting to get the phone call that was going to read the statement. Smith was going to read the statement that he wanted me to make. I finally spoke to him and I agreed to do this.

By the time I got home in mid-September he was very well along in his campaign. He was well-organized as far as radio and television went, especially television, and although he wasn't used to making public appearances or public speeches in the sense that experienced politicians are, he was working very hard at it and going all over the city and talking before the students and Columbia. Do you remember that?

Yes, I remember the coverage very well.

I was very anxious that he present a good image to people and he seemed rather shy and would talk down and look