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didn't make it then it dated '15. It might have been written the next year. The last year we were in existence was '15, I think. We looked into everything while we were about it that had to do with factory life, including night work for women and child labor. I remember taking Mr. Alfred Smith, Elkus, Wagner and Cyrus Phillips, a Republican from Rochester, to see the children. Cyrus Phillips declared there were no children working in the State of New York, so we took them out one fine morning, getting them all to rise at four o'clock, riding out in Ford cars that looked like everybody else's, and popped them into a factory that was just full of children at that hour in the morning - a surprise visit. We took them to several other places. They saw children at work. You never could tell Al Smith again that children didn't work in the State of New York. He saw them.

There were a great many investigators and they were all out making full reports. We had a full report from a great many investigators. Our material was very well documented and very well checked. Although we took the members of the commission to certain sensational places, because they had to see the picture as we investigators saw it, we nevertheless of course had hundred and hundreds and thousands of cases of factories with fire hazards, factories with accident