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for a living, probably read more and developed more spiritual and philosophical concepts than did the average man. But there were always men in the community, who were not average and who were not devoting their lives to scrambling for a living, but devoting their lives to thinking, who were also developing and giving out these same concepts. I never have thought that women were any better than men, and I still don't.

I don't think I attached myself to a suffrage movement until I came to New York from Philadelphia. By that time they were organizing in a very systematic way. I had, after all, a position. By this time, I had become a social worker and was established in a job. I was very naturally asked to join one of the woman's suffrage societies. There were two or three of them and I don't remember which I joined. It was the one that Dr. Anna Howard Shaw, Mrs. Carrie Chapman Catt, Mary Garrett Hay belonged to. Vira Whitehouse also belonged to it. Mrs. Harriet Stanton Blatch was also active in the movement. She was Elizabeth Cady Stanton's daughter. Mrs. Catt, Miss Hay and Anna Howard Shaw were the old breed of suffragists. They were mostly farmer's daughters. Of course the farmer's daughter was a pretty substantial person in the early days. They were the basis of the teachers, the educators and that breed. They had no style, very unfashionable, very commonplace in their backgrounds.