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a number of skills that they never would have learned otherwise. Our problem was to keep the volunteers from getting in each other's way. There were volunteers for all kinds of work, but in some things they were in each other's way.

Mayor Hylan followed Mayor Mitchel into office. He was a different kind of a fellow and he didn't like anything that Mitchel had done. He was William Randolph Hearst's Mayor. Before he ever was inducted into office or Ruth Morgan or I had any opportunity to go and interview him, telling him what we would do for him in this great organization, he had announced through the press that he had personally appointed Mrs. Hearst to be the head of all of the activities for war service. He said that everybody should report to her. There was great gnashing of teeth and great troubles around because some of these ladies didn't think Mrs. Hearst was anybody they ought to know. Time has passed and Mrs. Hearst is now very respectable. Marion Davies superseded her. People forget that Mrs. Hearst superseded others and that she too came off the variety stage. At that time it was quite recent.

Mrs. Hearst, of course, was regarded with a good deal of horror by the better class of people and in the organizations that for the most part belonged to this Council of Organizations for War Service. Many of the felt they just could not cooperate with Mrs. Hearst. They didn't see how