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at it. We had a hard time getting enough people together and keeping them consistently at this program of always being in the Board of Estimate room, always being with the Board of aldermen when they met, always going before the various agencies and boards, always going and appearing opposed to some regulation that the Department of Charity or someone else was making.

We found every now and then a perfectly brilliant person who would do everything that she was asked a little better than you would expect her to, but we didn't find the great mass of the members wanting to do just that kind of work although they liked belonging to the City Club. It was kind of a revelation of the non-professional approach to some of these things. They didn't really want to take the trouble to become semiprofessional which is what we had had in mind. At any rate, I carried it on valiantly and did the best I could.

I kept on doing that through the spring up until summer. When hot weather came, it closed for the season. This was in 1918. We never revived it, partly because the next winter I had something else on.

Sometime in the spring of that year Dr. Ralph Lobenstein and Dr. J. Clifton Edgar asked me to undertake to be the Executive Secretary and Director of an organization that they were trying to form, the purpose of it being the prevention





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