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an awfully smart girl and a very intelligent one - the very good executive type. He was a good mediator. Rose never let any grass of ill will grow.

By mediator I mean someone who goes in between people who are quarreling and brings order, common sense and good will out of it. He mediates between them.

Her brother, William Pedrick, was the President of the Fifth Avenue Association for years. He had a title of Colonel. He may have been a colonel in some way, but I think it was one of those courtesy titles or one of the reserve troops. He was a very good fellow. He was a man who was very close to Al Smith in a personal way, I think probably through Rose. Rose Pedrick, her brother Bill, and George Van Namee were all people I think of now and know that acted as mediators in a most informal way. They knew if there were people quarreling. They'd tell the Governor. He said, “See what you can do to fix them up.”

Jerry O'Connor was very devoted to the Governor, but he was not the mediator type. He laid down the law occasionally when it needed to be laid down to somebody.

I assure you that there was very little quarreling among the people around the Governor. In a way I suppose you'd think of it now as astonishing because they were all in a political scheme. But there was great personal