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him his great sense of case in dealing with his people around him.

Also he was very direct. If he had known of a row going on, he would have spoken of it right away to both of them and probably together. The rough life of the streets and the Fulton Fish Market had after all had its effect on him. He wasn't delicate about it. He didn't think there was anything rude or unseemly in quarreling. People always did that. Roosevelt thought it was unseemly to quarrel. You didn't do that kind of thing. He was embarrassed when people were having a row. Smith thought that it was natural that people should quarrel. The only thing was that it was a nuisance to have them quarreling and you had to settle it. He would talk to them both at the same time and each one would hear what he said to the other. There was no saying one thing to one person one day and something else to somebody else the next day. They both heard it. He thought you ought not to do this any more, or he thought you ought to do that some more. If he didn't talk to you both at the same time, he would call up on the telephone after he was through talking to you and say, “I talked to Miss Perkins about that and she said that she gets the idea. She'd like to talk to you about it.” There was the time that





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