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I was in Albany one day and he telephoned up and asked me to come down. He wanted to talk to me. He talked about nothing in particular. Then he said to his secretary, “Is Bishop O'Connell coming in? When's he coming?”

“He's due right now. In fact he's in the outer office now.”

“Show him in.” Then he said to me, “You just stay here. We'll go on with our conversation later. You don't need to say anything. Just stay here.”

The Bishop came in. He introduced me to the Bishop and said I was in the Industrial Commission. I retired modestly from the midst of them to the other side of the desk. The Bishop started to talk. He said to the Governor that he'd come to him about the measure which he understood was going to be introduced, or had been introduced, looking to some more revisions in the child labor law - raising the working age or doing something. I don't remember now exactly what the bill did. We had come to talk to Smith about that because it was a very serious matter. He, the Bishop, wanted to tell the Governor that that must never be allowed to become law. He went through this whole thing of how the family controls the child. God set up the family as the unit. The family must control all of its members. Only so