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and all those things.

When the Republicans picked him for their candidate in 1928, I was guilty of the heresy of saying that one great thing that Al Smith had done for his country was to have forced the Republicans to nominate a good man.

I met James J. Walker first when he was in the Assembly. He didn't seem to be a very important person. He was neither important politically or intellectually. I didn't pay much attention to him. I'm sure he was always perfectly regular. Whatever the order was, I'm sure he voted that way. He was not one of the people you went to hoping to make a personal impression upon his own mind in the hopes that his mind would give attention to your ideas and perhaps be with you.

There were members, even of the Tammany delegation, certainly many Democratic members, and quite a number of Republican members, to whom you could go with your bill or the matter you were interested in and who would give you their personal attention, often being interested, being in favor of your legislation, even if it was not endorsed by the party leaders. That was shown by the mixed votes that we got on these bills. We got both Republicans and Democrats voting on them. We got Republicans and Democrats voting against them. In the Assembly you had all the men from the