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her and I had fired this man. I hadn't known that would happen, but I had known that this man would reach the Governor so I had told the Governor all about it in advance. I told Curry about it in advance. They both agreed that I had to do it. There was nothing I could do about it. His behavior was reprehensible. That man's name was Richard Flinn. He may even be number one on every civil service list in the State of New York now. For years and years and years his name cropped up on every examination and always practically at the top. He was a very versatile, intellectual man. He could take the most difficult examination and come out way at the top, but couldn't do anything.

I never appointed him again, but the question of whether I would appoint him came up a number of times because he would appear as number one on the list. I would pass over him and appoint number two or three rather than appoint him. We had very rigid rules and you had to appoint one of those three. If there's a good reason for not appointing one of those three, you have to be sure it's awful good. You have to make a written case. You have to appear before the Civil Service Commission in person. You have to cite chapter and verse as to why you can't use one, two or three. They give you a choice of three people. That's ample they believe. So I took number two or three frequently and passed