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the process is so automatic that it doesn't have many people at the hazard point. If there had been more people, there would have been terrible destruction. Of course there was a great destruction of plant. I think it destroyed some houses and other property in the neighborhood. It was potentially a terrible thing. It just happened that not many were killed. They were very good on that.

There were a number of manufacturers of that sort scattered all over the State of New York, who were helpful, intelligent and cooperative. They didn't always come over to agree to our point of view, but at least they didn't oppose it. Gradually we began to have very good relations with the manufacturers of New York State. It got to the point where I was invariably invited to speak at their annual dinner, which was going some from the point from which we had started. Daly was still the hired man, but I had managed to circumvent him, get around him and getting to his principals, laying before his principals certain things.

When Maxwell Wheeler was President of the Associated Industries, he said to Daly, “Just remember, I'm in charge. I mean to do this job. I've been elected President and I'm going to decide what the Associated Industries will oppose and what it will support.”