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If I have a fire, my risk has been socialized. That's the theory.

Ethelbert Stewart was a great asset to me. There was another man named Charles Sharkey, who was a member and came to meetings and is still in the U.S. Labor Department. I got to know him pretty well. I got to know Boris Stern. He used to come to IABC meetings. I got to know them through these Industrial Accident Board meetings.

Also I belonged to another organization which was the International Association of Governmental Labor Officials. Canada was in that too, as well as the state labor officials. Always a sprinkling of people from the federal Department of Labor came to that. I must say that that was an awfully dreary organization. There wasn't much life to it, and it wasn't much good. It never did much, but I got to know people from the US Department of Labor. They were usually quite far down the line people, but good people.

The Department of Labor during the '20s was pretty dead. William B. Wilson was just finishing up the wartime things. They had done pretty well with the War Labor Board. They had done some good things. They had had a public employment service during the war. I never did know how





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