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determination to do as they pleased, a great independence. They didn't always dress up and were pretty rough looking. But they were very important because they were disaffected. They were anti-Smith on religious grounds purely. They were all very, very anti. We had to go up there, as somebody promised we would. So we went.

There wasn't much to do. We made speeches from the steps of the courthouse. The judges adjourned the court. Everybody came out. We met all the county officials, such as they were. They were very countrified. We went through the several villages, stopping at the grocery store which was the only building of any size at all. The houses were just little shacks and cabins. There were no real houses, as I remember.

At one of the places, one of the men said, “Now, Irene, your cousin Steptoe lives here.” I don't remember his full name, but it was Steptoe “Something.” Steptoe was finally found and brought forth. This was also one of Irene's great jokes, because he proved to be one of these real, old, tobacco chawin', gallus wearing men. He bore great names. Steptoe was one of the really great colonial settler names. I forget his other name, but they were very famous names in Virginia. He just happened to be the kind of a man who