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regarded her in a most friendly fashion. I saw her every election year and occasionally in between times for many years, certainly up until the time after Roosevelt was President when Senator Reed broke with him. She came in to see me then. I told her I didn't see why Reed did that, and so forth. I don't think we've seen each other much since then. I don't recall having seen her much since that time. She later married Senator Reed and became completely in his corner of the Democratic attitude toward Roosevelt. He thought Roosevelt was no Democrat. He was against him on that account. He thought Roosevelt did too much for the farmer, too much for the people, all that sort of thing.

Senator Reed is still a mystery to me. I know a lot of things about him because I had a lot of contact with him then and later - before Roosevelt and during Roosevelt. He was a strange creature, and just as queer as he could be, though I don't know why. He taught me a lot about the farmers of the Middle West, Their whole problem was that they used their land for real estate. That's true. They got the price of wheat up and then sold a hundred acres of land for an enormous price on the theory that you could get a dollar a bushel for wheat. They speculated in land rather than thinking of making their living as honest farmers. I think he was right about that, and I think that the whole circumstances





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