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and their families and friends, and students. It was a very highbrow kind of a town. It was a very orderly meeting and very intelligent. They came to hear about politics. They wanted to hear my story about what Al Smith had done for social and labor legislation. It was effective there. That was what they wanted. If they had prejudices, they weren't wearing them on their sleeves, at any rate.

Then Bernice Pike said, “All of southern Ohio is strong Methodist. I want you to go down where they are having a Methodist convocation in Wooster, Ohio. (This was the funniest thing I was ever asked to do.) I want you to go down and speak to them. Martin L. Davey, the Congressman, who is a candidate for Governor, is a Methodist.” He was going to be there and he was going to speak. Bernice Pike wanted to get me on the program and she did. I have never known how she managed it, because it was purely a Methodist convocation and wasn't supposed to have anything to do with politics.

They had a three day session and I spoke twice. I spoke at a big luncheon at which everybody was present. Then I spoke at a late afternoon meeting the next day to which only those who wanted to come came. They were all present at the lunch. I guess there were about 600 people there. It was a luncheon in some church in the big vestry or