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Bernice thought it went big. She thought, “Oh, my, you got them now. This is just the thing I've been longing for them to hear. He's a good man.”

When the vote came in, southern Ohio voted solidly against Smith. I always took that as a lesson. Never think you've got your audience because they cry. I wish Mr. Richard Nixon might have learned something from that experience.

With regard to Al Smith and the '28 campaign, I think I have heretofore laid more stress upon the antagonism aroused toward him by his religious connection than I have on any other one thing. However, there were other elements that contributed very greatly to the reaction against him through-out the country.

One of these elements was his stand on Prohibition. Whereas his stand on Prohibition was very popular in the great cities of the East, it was regarded with horror in the South, and to a large extent in areas of the Middle West where they have been historically liberal in their choice of Senators, for instance, but where they were strictly teetotaler people who did not like the idea of repealing the Prohibition amendment, which had been kind of a moral issue at the time with those who were interested in it.

It was organizations like the Anti-Saloon League