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and you'd better consult some leaders. I want you to understand that if anybody cones to you and says in any way that it's perhaps unwise to appoint me, or that it's inconvenient, or that it will make trouble with some of the leaders, or in any other way, just disregard the fact that you have asked me today. Just telephone me that you're going to appoint James Jones, or anybody else. It's absolutely all right with me. I'm not going to tell anybody so that you can't be sewed up.”

He looked at me in some surprise and said, “That's very decent of you, I must say, but I'm not going to change my mind.”

It's curious that he told that to Mrs. Roosevelt. He told it later to Mary Dewson. He told it to Caroline O'Day. I think he told it to Bob Wagner. All those people told me about it separately. He didn't tell Mary Dewson then. He told her after he was running for President. In talking about me be told her this episode of way back when he offered me the Industrial Commissionership. It had in his mind been an indication of a considerable asset in me, that I wasn't greedy. I wasn't going to hold him to political promises. I was going to make it easy for him.

I hadn't thought of it in that term. I had thought of it as possibly an unwise move on his part - politically





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