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undoubtedly do something. This again was Belle Moskowitz's invention. There was always a committee of different professions and trades for Smith. The social workers' committee for Smith was always one of her favorite campaign devices. It brought a lot of support to Smith, because the social workers in general thought he had done a splendid job and that the things he had brought into the government were good. So there was a lot of enthusiastic support.

I see Hopkins functioning in some of those committees. I don't think he functioned in any other political groups, except those temporary, voluntary committees, but he may have. I wouldn't know really and I don't remember. He was on the map all right.

After Roosevelt was Governor and I was Industrial Commissioner the slide from high employment to quite a marked decline began. I think I've said this before, but seeing it coming I recommended to Roosevelt that we appoint a commission to study unemployment in the State of New York and make some program for it. The stock market crash was in '29 and the decline began to be very obvious in '30. I'm pretty sure that the committee to study unemployment was appointed when I was Industrial Commissioner. While I was still a member of the Industrial Board, but not its Chairman