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name I didn't even know who were very anxious that I should come. That was because we had done something about unemployment in the State of New York. We had appointed a committee. We hadn't done anything else. They wanted me to come to this conference.

The person who was the prime mover in this country was Mary van Kleeck. She has since become in most of our minds identified with the extreme left. There are those who have called her worse. But at that time Mary van Kleeck was a prim, prissy, very respectable, very highbrow social worker who had ceased to do direct social work and had been working for the Russell Sage Foundation as its assistant director for quite a long time. She was Mr. John M. Glenn's right-hand man. She was number two person in her own right, I think. She was supposed to be the great intellectual of the Russell Sage Foundation. She was a very much respected person, very religious, very pious and a little more prissy in her outlook on life than most of us were. So it never would have crossed my mind at that time to think of her as an agent of the left, nor am I sure that she was.

As I look back on it now I wonder why that conference was ever held in Amsterdam. I wonder what it was about or what was the purpose of having it. For the first time in