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time. They had a good deal to say about the recommending of judges and were probably pretty good estimators of character. They seemed to have been pretty high-minded men on the whole.

I don't remember anything more about Roosevelt's judicial appointments. If Sam Rosenman writes about it in his book, then he must have studied it. It must have made an impression on him. However, I'm pretty sure that they were not brilliant appointments and that they just followed the pattern which was the accepted pattern. I don't remember of any great new personality being appointed. I do think that Shientag was appointed by Roosevelt. If he was not appointed by Roosevelt, he was promoted by Roosevelt to a higher court.

The gubernatorial campaign of 1930 was very interesting. Roosevelt ran against Charles H. Tuttle. The campaign was interesting because by this time we were all much better qualified, much better equipped, to handle a Roosevelt campaign than we had been earlier.

I never heard the question raised that Al Smith should run again. It would have been most unusual for him to run. Smith was already occupied in the Empire State Building. He would have thought it very unsporting to interfere with the election to a second term of a Governor of the State of New York. It was sort of taken for granted that a Governor had a second term if he was any good at all.





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