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remember that in the DeWitt Clinton Hotel some of us remarked upon it. We said, “Do you think Al was hurt?” Mrs. Moskowitz was still very hurt and she was not there.

However, everything seemed to be going all right. The Governor had a good administration. I don't know whether I had to be reappointed. After my first appointment, when Al Smith appointed me to the Industrial Commission, there was never any question. At that time there was a flurry of excitement and a good deal of questioning. After that there never was any more. We'd established who I was and why I was there. My name may have been sent up again, but I don't recall it.

Roosevelt's second term was much like the first term, except for the fact that it soon became clear that an organization was being built up to promote Roosevelt for the Democratic nomination. It was done rather carefully and rather quietly. The organization was built up by Jim Farley, Louis Howe and others. I didn't have much part in this. My part in all this was never so much political as it was administrative. I was concerned about my job and the political end of things and was only a side issue to me. I don't think I had to be committed to Roosevelt before 1932, but I think I was. There was never any question of Smith or Roosevelt in my mind. I didn't realize that Smith's name would be presented.

I think I may have given the impression that I took