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wasn't the point. There was an understanding between them and a mutual respect.

In his development of social thinking and social justice, Smith never, at any time, had the slightest resentment, or any feeling that it ought not to be so, about people who were rich. Their being rich was all right with him. He never had any sense that that was wrong.

During the period that Al was no longer Governor and was operating the Empire State Building, he retained his passionate interest in New York State and all its doings. He did learn finally that his suggestions as to what ought to be done on the gubernatorial level were not being sought after. I can't say that he learned they were unwelcome, because he used to make suggestions from time to time through one person or another and I know that the Governor called him up occasionally to ask him something or other. My own feeling is that Roosevelt had a great respect for Al Smith and that the longer he was Governor the more he appreciated what a good Governor Al Smith had been, how much he knew about this, that or the other problem that came before the Governor and how quickly he could make an estimate of the situation. Roosevelt had nobody immediately around him who could make that kind of an estimate of the situation. Louis Howe couldn't. Guernsey Cross couldn't. Sam Rosenman couldn't actually. Sam Rosenman's knowledge began on the level of