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the political capital in that.

I don't really recall a great deal about Walker. I was a public official myself at this time. I was a state official and I didn't have any natural contact with the mayor of the City of New York, except seeing him on certain state occasions. For instance, the Governor came and held a reception in the City Hall on New Year's Day in the Governor's room. Governor Al did that and it was lovely. The Governor's room is on the second floor of City Hall. That is his office in the City of New York and any Governor is entitled to use that as an office. Governor Al came down and used that as an office when he first became Governor. Of course, having been in the city government he knew that was the Governor's room. He knew that he was entitled to come down there. He liked the lower part of the city anyway.

He invited all hands to come and see him. The misfortune was that all hands did. The Art Commission got busy right away and said to the Governor, “Look here, you can't do that. The carpets are worth thousands of dollars. This desk is an absolute rare, authentic antique, used by some great people. It's priceless. They lean on it. They put their cigars on it and they ruin it. Nobody can sit on this settee. It's got little, delicate hepplewhite legs. It was in the Livingston