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in any of the bad behavior. That's what almost everybody who was in the know thought. They thought that Seabury would never get anything very effective on Walker.

In 1942 the Seabury report was made public. Every effort was made by the politicians to postpone the Seabury report, and even to urge him to go and investigate something else, to call his attention to something else that needed to be added to it. They would do anything to keep him from coming to his conclusions and making his report when he did. But for reasons of his own, which I don't know about, that could not be affected. I think everybody tried to convince him, though.

Roosevelt talked a great deal before Fred Greene. Fred Greene was a good and responsive audience. He could talk out and get some response. Fred Greene wasn't always wise, but he got hot where you needed somebody to get hot to help you think. One day when Fred Green and Charlie Hand were present - Charlie Hand was a great friend of the mayor, Jimmy Walker, too, but was more of a friend of the state and more in the state outfit - I remember Roosevelt saying to us, “This whole business is terribly unfortunate.”

Fred Greene said, “It's a dirty deal to have this thing all over the country. What a fool Jimmy is! How did he ever get to behave like this? What a problem we've got on our