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Certainly the other side will blow it sky high. I might just as well cope with it, grapple with it and take the direct, head-on approach. If he can show that he has not done these things he's charged with, then that's clear. That's good and we can have good publicity on this. It can be made clear to the public so that they'll know there's nothing to it. But there's no sense in trying to cover it up, or hush it up, any longer, because we'll lose. We'll lose the respect of the people.”

I can't remember when he announced that he was going to hold hearings, but he did hold them in August. When the announcement was made, I don't know. The announcement was probably made about two weeks before the hearings were held at the end of August, but as early as sometime in July he'd made up his mind that he would do it. I think that by July Seabury was certainly putting pressure on him. It was also clear that the opposition was to make a lot of it. I don't think it was Seabury's idea that Roosevelt was to hear the thing in person. That I don't think was Sam Seabury's idea. I don't know what he had as an idea, but I don't think that was it. That was the thing that was a surprise, and I must say that many of us greeted it with some consternation. Roosevelt said, “I'm going to hear this case in person. I'm not going to farm this out to somebody, because I want Walker to have justice.”