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I came to be better acquainted with Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt and to feel a good deal of warmth toward her after the President became Governor. Then I became well acquainted with her because of the fact that she had known me for some time and I had known her for some time, and she would ask me to do things that she wouldn't have asked just any wife of a public officer or any casual public officer to do. She would ask me to help her with certain social things, to come to a luncheon and kind of spread good will, to go here and there. We used to travel back and forth on the trains together somewhat.

I was also often invited to spend the night in the Executive Mansion. When I was invited to spend the night, I saw more of her because I saw her informally. The house was often crowded. You have no idea how many people they used to ask to stay when there'd been some big occasion. Mrs. Roosevelt, who's a very adaptable person, would always give up her room when the house was crowded, because it was a good room. She would say, “You don't mind rooming with me, do you?” We'd take a little room on the third floor somewhere and would be in the room together. Well, you know, you get awfully well acquainted with a woman if you share a room with her even one night, but more so if it's done several times. You talk about this and that.