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economic development, and the relationship of the land to fiscal policies and so forth.

All I really know is that he went to an agricultural school and that his father at one time bought him a controlling interest in some New York agricultural paper, the name of which I don't remember. I don't believe it was the Rural New Yorker, but it may have been. I never saw any more of Henry Morgenthau, Jr., after that experience. I don't mean to say I never met him, but I had no contacts directly for a long while. I don't remember whether he played a part in the '28 campaign. He probably did, but I can't recall it. He didn't cross my path anywhere in such a way that I remember it. Whenever I saw his father, whom I did know and like very much and saw frequently, as a matter of courtesy I always asked about all the children, and asked about Henry. He was always telling me about the farm he was running and the agricultural work he was doing. Everything was well in that quarter.

I think that the first time I met Eddie Flynn, which started me on the Morgenthaus, was at Uncle Henry Morgenthau's house. I should have said that this was before 1928, but I don't know just how long before 1928. Flynn was in line for the Secretary of Stateship because he controlled the Bronx and the Bronx turns out an enormous vote. Al Smith didn't