Part: 123456789         Session: 1         Page na123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555657585960616263646566676869707172737475767778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100101102103104105106107108109110111112113114115116117118119120121122123124125126127128129130131132133134135136137138139140141142143144145146147148149150151152153154155156157158159160161162163164165166167168169170171172173174175176177178179180181182183184185186187188189190191192193194195196197198199200201202203204205206207208209210211212213214215216217218219220221222223224225226227228229230231232233234235236237238239240241242243244245246247248249250251252253254255256257258259260261262263264265266267268269270271272273274275276277278279280281282283284285286287288289290291292293294295296297298299300301302303304305306307308309310311312313314315316317318319320321322323324325326327328329330331332333334335336337338339340341342343344345346347348349350351352353354355356357358359360361362363364365366367368369370371372373374375376377378379380381382383384385386387388389390391392393394395396397398399400401402403404405406407408409410411412413414415416417418419420421422423424425426427428429430431432433434435436437438439440441442443444445446447448449450451452453454455456457458459460461462463464465466467468469470471472473474475476477478479480481482483484485486487488489490491492493494495496497498499500501502503504505506507508509510511512513514515516517518519520521522523524525526527528529530531532533534535536537538539540541542543544545546547548549550551552553554555556557558559560561562563564565566567568569570571572573574575576577578579580581582583584585586587588589590591592593594595596597598599600601602603604605606607608609610611612613614615616617618619620621622623624625626627628629630631632633634635636637638639640641642643644645646647648649650651652653654 of 654

Of course I discussed old age pensions, saying that that's a natural accompaniment of the idea of maintaining your labor market. You pay unemployment insurance while people are unemployed. You prohibit children from coming into the labor market so as to spread the jobs among the able-bodied adults who support the others. And you provide for a minimum allowance to the aged so that they are not a drag on the family at a time like this. That can be provided for at the same time. “If we can think of a way to have legally and constitutionally a system of unemployment compensation, we can think of a way to have old age insurance.”

At that point, of course, he begins to object, both to unemployment insurance and to old age insurance, as he always did until the bitter end, by saying, “You know, Frances, I don't believe in the dole and I never will!”

I had to say, “No, I don't believe in the dole either.” I once more went all over the business of describing to him that what they call the dole in England was merely the device by which they brought into the system at the last minute persons and industries that had never made any contribution to the system. Therefore it was a dole then.

Then he said, “We have to look out for that. You know, with the Townsend Plan people jumping on us and screaming