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Steel Company. He didn't see the Lackawanna Steel Company as a corporate nothing, having no flesh, blood, mind, heart or anything else. He saw it as a person. He would tend to personalize. I believe that in philosophy that is called animism. I often caught him in what I regarded as the grave error, and even heresy, of animism, which is to personalize impersonal objects. But that was the way he could think about them.

The things that I discussed with him that night were not revolutionary, even from a Republican point of view. They were propositions of what I would like to try to do. I admitted that many of them had grave obstacles in the way of constitutional and legal precedents in their way. But every one of them had been done in part or in whole somewhere, and most of them somewhere in the United States. So it was not a vague revolutionary theory. We had accurate, concrete information as to how they had worked. We had the regulation of hours of labor in the State of New York. It was of women, to be sure, but because it applied to women it had for the most part been applied to men in a standard pattern.

What I was suggesting was not anything very extraordinary. I knew it was a departure from the past in that it had not been done at the federal or national level. It