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never was. Perhaps they've reorganized it now, but there never was any job to be done then. It was always either a political gift to somebody who had been very helpful politically, or, like Smith's use of Bob Moses, it was used to give an extra place to somebody who didn't want to be tied down to a particular operation.

I doubt very much if Smith was enraged at Roosevelt not choosing Moses. Smith said to me more than once, “It's a pity that Moses and Roosevelt ran against each other from the time they first met.” Moses detested Roosevelt. That was clear and Smith knew that. It was quite natural that Roosevelt should detest him, or have no confidence in him. Whenever Al Smith spoke to me about it, he spoke of it as one of those regrettable things that two personalities didn't get on. I don't think there was much more to it than that in his furiousness. I doubt if he was enraged, although he recommended carrying Moses on. I know that in that case Roosevelt had no hesitancy in saying immediately that he didn't want Moses. Moses didn't like him and he didn't like Moses. He didn't want him around.

After Roosevelt's inauguration, Al telephoned him every day or two. That I know from what Roosevelt told me. I remember that Roosevelt once said to me, “He seemed to think that I was going to ask him to come up every weekend.” He





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