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of a certain self-consciousness in their relationship. It's not in the nature of man to completely disregard these elements that hurt them. Roosevelt was deeply hurt and damaged in his own personality by this terrible misfortune that had overtaken him which put him on the level of dependents. Smith was deeply hurt in his personality by the overwhelming rejection of the people of the United States for him as President when he believed that he had done all that anybody could do to demonstrate that he was a good and faithful servant. He was terribly hurt by the character and quality of the rejection, as well as by the rejection itself.

They were just human beings and each of them had that handicap, that particular sensitiveness brought about by a situation in which neither one was responsible for the other's sensitive condition. They were in a condition where small things could irritate or exacerbate an already existing condition of slight self-consciousness one to the other.

Although I don't think he was ever more than subconsciously aware of it, Roosevelt needed desperately to demonstrate to himself that he could do this, that he could do it well, that he could do it very well. I'm getting ahead of my story, but I've always thought that two items were driving elements of Roosevelt. One was a desire to outshine Al Smith. The other was a desire to outshine Uncle Ted.