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else. The secretary introduced him as Mr. Robe Carl White and said he was the First Assistant Secretary of Labor. It registered in my mind that he had real responsibilities and that he was in charge of general operations. We greeted each other. I told him I would want to see him very soon.

Then he brought in Mr. W. W. Husband whom I knew from long years back, who was the Second Assistant Secretary of Labor. Mr. W. W. Husband was a man from Vermont - a Republican - who had been at one time in the Congress, I think, but many, many years ago. He had been for many years an officer in the Immigration Service. That was where I had known him. He'd been an administrative officer. Not an inspector, and had at one time been Chief of the Immigration Service. He had been, in Hoover's administration or Coolidge's administration, made Second Assistant Secretary of Labor. The Immigration Service was in the Department of Labor and was its major project. So it was a natural and good appointment that the Second Assistant Secretary of Labor should be the man who had been at the head of the Immigration Service, and therefore knew about it. That was a good appointment.

I had known Mr. Husband and thought very well of him. I had worked with him on committees. I had been with some organization involved in immigrant education in New York.