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Department and all the rest went to immigration.

So when I had my first talk with Roosevelt about affairs as I found them in the Department, I tabbed off these very things to him. I told him briefly and roughly about the Section 24 people, what I had found, and what a closes have we'd had. Of course, I quoted Wickersham to him. Roosevelt was astonished and at the same time he laughed. He said, “It' s a great joke that it should be you who runs In to the crooks.” At any rate, he said,” Fine, you've done the right thing. Go a head and clean them out. You were lucky to have though to that way of doing it. You were darn lucky that you found the appropriation wholly expended. You're all right. I suppose there were some Democrats among these people.”

I said, “I suppose we'll learn in a day or two that there were. We'll begin hearing from Congress, I'm sure. We'll find that Mr. Doak appointed two or three Democrats Just to keep the kitty sweet. What'll I do?”

He said, “Don't do a thing. Just let' em go. Anybody who works in that kind of an outfit ought not to be protected, no matter who he is. Just tell the same story to the Democratic Congressmen that you tell to the others. Tell them the money Was gone. There wasn't any money. You couldn't keep the man because there wasn't any money. You can be as polite





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