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people the desirability of getting a hall somewhere else, but everybody who advised me said it was much the best thing to keep it in the Labor Department. We wanted to get the symbol and demonstration of the Labor Department and the administration helping labor. We could have hired a ball room over in a hotel, but we wanted to get the demonstration that the Labor Department is for the working people and that the Labor Department confers with the organized labor leaders about their ideas and their conceptions of what it would be well to do in this emergency.

So we cleared all the furniture out of my office, which was the largest room, and opened up the doors into an adjoining office - opened by sliding doors. Then we put around lot of these little folding chairs. Well, it was uncomfortable as the old Harry. I know that. It was too crowded. It was uncomfortable. It got hot right away because it was warm weather - spring came very early that year - and so many people in a room heated it up.

Anyway, they came. We met. Everybody was introduced and we greeted everybody. They cast a big pickle eye on Hillman and Dubinsky. Lewis was less than happily welcomed. I had met Lewis before, by the way. As a matter of fact, I had met him at John Mitchell's funeral year before. I had just met him along with a lot of other people. I remember