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respect for, and with some of whom I have very considerable friendship. Some of them developed as they went along. Others, I guess, never were the way most of them were. You can't remember who asks what kind of a question. You see this mob of thirty or forty people and you aren't aware of which person asks which question.

For instance, Bill Lawrence was among that group, a fresh young bumpkin. He's now a very fine reporter for the Times. Of course the war developed him amazingly. He was sent off as a war correspondent and I think he's one of the best political reporters on the Times now with a good international point of view.

Another one of these was Charlie Herrold. I don't remember what paper he was with, but he's now the editor of the AF of L newspaper. He was not an AF of L man. He got interested in the labor movement from covering the Labor Department.

Of course, there was wonderful Mary Hornaday. She developed into a first-class reporter. She's on the Christian Science Monitor.

I knew some people like Arthur Krock and Waltor Lippmann and saw them through arranged interviews and socially, but they don't go to press conferences. The men who write columns and the heads of news bureaus are the important