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when I was talking to Mr. White, he said, “Colonel Clark will want awfully to stay. He's almost sixty-five. He's within six or eight months of retirement age and he can get his retirement allowance if he can stay until he is of retirement age. He has no other way of earning a living. He never can get another job because he's too old to go back into the newspaper business. He wants to stay awfully.

I said, “Do you recommend it, Mr. White?”

He said, “I'm not in a position to know anything about it. I never had anything to do with him. He was exclusively interested in Mr. Doak. I was running the Department and doing the best I could, but I didn't know anything about Doak's business. He worked for Doak. Whatever the publicity was it was between him and Mr. Doak, not with me. I don't know whether he's good, bad, or in different, but he's a presentable fellow and he's been a newspaper man.”

That was that. I didn't think much about it. Within another day Harold Ickes telephoned me. He said, “You've got a fellow over in your Department named Clark who's the publicity man. He comes from Chicago. I know him years ago when he was on a Chicago newspaper. He's a very competent man. He tells me that he's within a few months of retirement age and he's very anxious to stay on if it can possibly be arranged.”