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problem. He had swallowed a lot of the Technocrats stuff. He felt the problem we had at that time was over-production by these great machines. All we had to do was to distribute the presently available work among the people that are now out of work and among the working group.

I even tried to raise the question with him about what we did about the people who were coming into the industries, as there were new people growing up all the time. “Well, that's just to be balanced by the people who die or retire as they grow older.” Well, of course, I didn't like to argue with him about the birth rate. It was true that at that time our population wasn't steadily rising. The birth rate had fallen off in the depression years. (We had this present spurt in population beginning in the war period.) The birth rate fell off in the depression years and stayed off until the beginning of the war. Then it went up.

It know this is true because I remember the estimating of employment, investments and school population during those years. The City of New York in those years went into a program of abandoning certain school buildings and not building new ones, because the birth rate was falling off. They had some very bad old structures they wanted to abandon, but had never been able to before. So they