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I thought to myself, “You can't do that kind of thing really.” But the President never recognized lines of authority. He never recognized that here was your box and you couldn't go out of it. He thought that anybody could go across lines. Of course, it was part of his genius that he did go across lines himself and would support other people in going across lines, provided they didn't get all tangled up, ruin themselves, and get a bad reputation. Then he wouldn't support them.

After I had conveyed that message from Baruch, I thought that the President had probably settled the issue in his own mind. But he said, “Well, I won't sew it up just yet. I'll give it a little more consideration. I'll think a little more about it. Who else is there?”

We discussed several people. At this point I can't recall the various people that he mentioned. He discussed Dykstra. He thought Dykstra would be better for some other type of thing. He thought very well of Dykstra too. He thought he was excellent, but he thought he was a man better fitted for something else. I think we talked about Philip LaFollette. I think that was the President's idea, and not mine. Phil LaFollette was hardly known to me at that time and certainly not on my list of good people then.

I had a big list of good people. I'd been making it