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the room. I got up and moved up to the other end of the room and walked along with the President. I said, “Hugh is about crazy.” As I passed Hugh I found he was sitting there in his chair muttering, “I don't know why. I don't know why.”

The President said, “Stick with him, Frances. Don't let him talk to the press. Get him over it.”

Johnson recognized me as a friend always. I went up, sat down beside him and said, “Well, this is fine, Hugh. This is pleasant. Now you can get to work right away on all these plans.”

He kept on muttering, “I don't know why. I don't know why.”

I said, “Stop talking with all these Cabinet officers around. Come along; I'll take you back in my car. I want to talk to you about something and my car is waiting outside.”

So we walked out. I walked him down the back way. I don't think he knew that I was taking him down a way which only Cabinet officers can use. Other people don't go that way ordinarily, and Cabinet officers don't ordinarily go that way. Nobody else goes down that way except the employees of the President's office. You come out on the side street. I had had my car parked there because I often went that way. It saved time. It saved a cross-examination