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However, all this has nothing to do with the case, because I'm talking about Swope as a mediator. In that he was very successful. Even he would reach the end of his patience at times.

I'd like to go into now what was the actual rise of the idea of a vote among the employees. No one had ever thought of that. Even Senator Wagner, in his dealings in these various textile operations, had never thought of asking the workers if they wanted to belong to the union and having them vote on it. The problem there had been to get the employer to meet with the union under any circumstance.

Swope, however, was called in by me on a very difficult and stubborn case of a hosiery mill in Pennsylvania. I don't think it was in Reading, but it may have been. It was nearby Reading, or in that area, anyway. This was a place making silk, or rayon, or nylon ladies' hosiery, which is a common industry in that part of the country. This was a very large company, however. I don't know whether the people who had control of the company were owners, or managers, or both. I think they were owners and managers. They were Germans. I think that at least two of the principal people involved were not American citizens, although some of the others were American citizens, but of German extraction. They were extremely Germanic in their attitudes toward