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He said they would be willing to forego the pleasure of being the authors of a great plan for the President if we could get together - “get together” was the great word. Richberg had already said that. He thought we ought to “get together.”

So I went back to the President with the story of this at least three-way planning that was going on, with the indication that there might be even more planning that I hadn't discovered. I didn't know to what extent Lew Douglas was involved in any of them. Neither did the President know to what extent Lew Douglas was involved in any of them, but this I had heard in my circulation - they had all been in touch with Lew Douglas, as the Director of the Budget, and as the man who was having a great deal of publicity as the President's principal adviser. I don't know where that publicity started, whether Douglas started it or not, but that was in the newspapers all the time.

Douglas was a very impressive and interesting fellow. The President had promised that he was going to balance the budget. Lew Douglas was chosen as Director of Budget because he too believed in balancing the budget, and he believed in it very sincerely. That I know. I have no doubt at all of Lew Douglas's sincerity in that matter. He made considerable sacrifice because of his definite belief in it.