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At any rate, there was to be a hearing the next day and she wanted to go to the hearing. So Mrs. Rumsey took her to the hearing. There she saw Robbie coming in with the water and she didn't like that either. She hadn't met Miss Robinson. She said, “Who is that girl?”

Mary said, “Miss Robinson is her name. She's the General's secretary - a very good secretary.”

So Mrs. Johnson said, “Well, I should meet her.”

“Certainly,” said Mary, “as soon as the hearing's over. I was going to take you to General Johnson's offices anyhow. I know he wants you to meet all of his office staff.”

So she took her to General Johnson's office and introduced her. I only speak of this because it offered one of the problems. We finally got her away. On account of the heat she went back to Virginia, but it was a constant problem. This all developed during the summer of '33.

We had persuaded the General to have three advisory committees - a labor advisory committee, an employers' advisory committee. I had gotten a rush of blood to the head and gotten scared that it was a kind of corporate state scheme - not intending to be, but employers, labor and the government could agree on something - that could be totally ruinous to the general public. Nobody gave a tinker's damn for the public in this whole thing. Nobody spoke up