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didn't have any money. I don't mean that he would help them out with loans or with charity, but with advice about how to handle their affairs. I know that he did a great deal for Mrs. Roosevelt at the time that Franklin Roosevelt died. That estate was in a pretty bad, mixed-up, chaotic condition. Mrs. Roosevelt had a rough time settling the estate because so much of it was in personal property or things like that. I know that Mr. Baruch helped her out with judgment, advice, and things of that sort. He was very, very kind to her. As a matter of fact, I met him at her apartment in New York one morning at breakfast. She'd asked me to come to breakfast and Mr. Baruch came in at breakfast time. He obviously came very often. After I was through with my talk with Mrs. Roosevelt and went away, he went in. He obviously had come to talk about business, because he said, “I've got those papers and I thought I'd bring them to you myself because I wanted to explain them.” That was when she was in the throes of trying to settle the estate and having a hard time.
He's a very kind person about things like that and I think had been to Miss Dickerman. Anyhow, Miss Dickerman had gone to him and said she wanted to go on this commission. I found that out because he told me that. I said, “Whatever made you think of Miss Dickerman as a possibility?”
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