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noon adjournment, make a very brief speech, and announce this proclamation about wages. Then we were to come back for an afternoon session and in the afternoon session the members of the code authorities would be asked to express themselves.

I remember saying, “General Johnson, it's very dangerous to allow the members of the code committees to express themselves after the President's proclamation. If you're going to have the proclamation, don't give them time to say anything after that. Let them do all their saying beforehand. That's the proper way to do it. If you're attempting to have a public hearing and to give the impression of a public action that justifies and authorizes an action of an administrator, have all your hearings beforehand. Let them speak their pieces beforehand. Then at least go through the motions of thinking over what they said and then announce your decision. If you want the President to announce it, let it be done after the speaking, but don't let them speak afterwards because they'll tear it to pieces.” That's what they did, by the way.

But he was determined. I tried to keep the President from going. It was all right to have the rally and to stimulate them, but let Johnson say that he thought wages ought to be raised and that they ought to be raised in