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thought well of the idea. Baruch promised to forward the idea - that is, to offer cooperation and assistance to Johnson about doing such a thing, indicating to Johnson that he thought it was a fine thing, that it needed to be done. Of course, it could be put on the grounds that the NRA was now so well organized, moving, going, popular and established that Johnson could go into a wider field and look into the theory of recovery, observing the progress in other countries and perhaps gaining something that we could apply here.

I really don't know why everyone went to such lengths not to hurt Johnson. I don't know why it wasn't just laid on the line to him. As I've said, nobody could ever find it in his heart ever to hurt Johnson. Anyhow, that was the way we felt about it all. Neither the President, nor any- one else, even McIntyre, who was relatively less considerate of people than the rest of us were, could hurt him. He was an old newspaper man and had seen rough things done and even he couldn't bear to hurt Hugh.

Hugh hadn't done anything that was wrong. He hadn't made a failure of the work. He was just in a jam of his own. I suppose it was because the President couldn't bring himself to get rid of Johnson immediately that the