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do with the so-called management of the agencies. That's where they've butted in and spent a lot of money needlessly. But that was not under Douglas. That came later under Smith.

Douglas was strictly attending to fiscal matters and I thought he had a very intelligent view of fiscal matters, and this in spite of the fact that we didn't agree on this one thing. He tried to outwit me, and I outwitted him. I think that Douglas was thinking in terms of a program for America, as we all were, but he believed that the best thing for America was economy and a balanced budget. He believed that sincerely. He thought of public works as a Congressman thinks of the park barrel. He thought it would be just a lot of money expended when we were already in a deflationary period. It was an honest view. It wasn't necessarily a Republican view. There's nothing to do with Republicanism or Democracy in that. To me it was too much of what the Hoover administration had hoped for - just ride along as you are, get clear to the bottom, and then nature will come through and there will be a natural revival.

All this Hooverism was not really Republicanism. I know Republicanism because I was brought up in New England when it was fully Republican and when everybody I knew, all my family, were all Republican. I was thoroughly indoctrinated with what is true Republicanism. Since





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