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I remember I was shocked, because I thought that Baruch was his principal friend and backer and that he had probably been the person who had recommended Hugh to the President. The reason I thought that was because I knew that Hugh had worked with Baruch all these years, and I suppose that the press had always indicated that he was a great pal of Baruch's, that he would have Baruch backing, and everything. I was startled when Baruch said, “He isn't fit to be the head of any of these things.”

I said, “Why, Mr. Baruch, I thought you thought a lot of him and that he was one of the people who worked with you.”

“Sure,” he said, “he's worked with me for years, but Hugh's got lots of weaknesses. He's not fit to be the head of anything where he has to carry heavy responsibility. He just can't do it. Hugh's always got to have somebody to keep him in order. He's got lots of ability, but you have to handle it. Hugh isn't one of the men I trust. Hugh's my number three man. I don't give him anything to do that is responsible and independent. He's fine when he works right with me, or right with Hancock, or right with somebody else, working under them, when them telling him what to do. He's got lots of drive, but you've got to le ad him, to show him how. He isn't fit for this. You must intervene with the President. You must go tell the President this.”